That info is probably also in the image metadata
None of the credits appear in the image metadata even if these credits are found with the search engine. I am investigating in LR, in Backlight, and in the images themselves in an effort to find where this information is stored for the search engine to find.
But another thing: why are the results displayed on the search page, not in any apparent order. They are not in alphabetical order by the show, by production house nor by title. Is there a way to sort these results?
As an example, search for:
âMichel Beaulieuâ and you will find many productions in no particular order.
Iâd refer you back to the documentation
âPhotos that match on keywords will feature higher in the results. Searching on photos is done primarily on keywords, and secondarily on matches of title, caption and filename. Searches are further ordered based on the proportion of search terms found in the fields.â
Back to the keywords issues: I populated the keywords with names written in the Page Content/MainCopy in order to be able to search the credits associated with different productions that are on the site. Works pretty well, after all. But I stumbled upon this problem: accentuated characters seem to be difficult to recognize by the search module. Consider: âRĂ©al BenoĂźtâ or âBenoĂźt Girardâ. These do not return results even if the keywords are correctly written in Lightroomâs keyword list and appear correctly on the appropriate web pages.
As expected, lost of cleaning up and âminding my pâs and qâsâ so to speak helps a lot. It will take time, but the few productions cleaned up do yield the expected results.
Now, if only the search results had the years in the correct order when displaying multiple resultsâŠ
https://pideja.ca/backlight/search/?q=%22Beno%C3%AEt+Girard%22
The search function orders items by relevance. Those that score higher with matches across keywords, titles and captions will appear earlier in the list.
Trying to understandâŠI write my keywords into the keyword list in LR6 like these, for the play âYonkersâ:
1992-1993, Anne Duceppe, Benoßt Girard, Duceppe, François Brunelle, Luc Prairie, Marcel Dauphinais, Monique Duceppe, Neil Simon, Normand Blais, Yonkers
Why wonât the numbers show up in the search function?
In this example, searching for shows with âBenoĂźt Girardâ in the creditsâŠhttps://pideja.ca/backlight/search/?q=%22Beno%C3%AEt+Girard%22
You will notice that âYonkersâ from 1992-1993 comes in third. After two shows from 2003 and 2004.
Take the case of âNormand Blaisâ
https://pideja.ca/backlight/search/?q=%22Normand+Blais%22
Most of the shows he worked on were at DUCEPPE theatre.
But neither the season nor the titles are in no particular order.
Iâm missing something here.
Results are returned ordered by the search score. There is no secondary sorting when items return the same search score, which appears to be the case for at least the second search on Normand Blais.
Frankly, I do not understand the terminology. And since I know next to nothing in search engine design and management, I am at a loss when it comes to search score, secondary sorting or what you may have noticed on the âsecondâ search for Normand Blais.
So, letâs leave it. The search module works pretty good as a whole (at least as good as my keyword list in LR is made up) and I have a more pressing issue to deal with. Iâll be posting this question separately.
Thank you, Ben
I will try to explain it in clearer terms, at least for the benefit of other readers who may be interested.
Our search creates a score for every album and photo that matches the search terms. An album or photo that matches more of the search terms in more places (e.g in a title or a description or an associated keyword) will be given a higher score.
Letâs say a given photo matches two search terms in each of those three places, it will be given a score of 6. Another photo only matches one search term in those three places. It will be given a score of 3. A third album matches only one search term and only in one place. It will be given a score of 1. Those three albums will appear in the search results in the order of their scores from highest to lowest. That doesnât consider the aesthetics of the appearance of sorting by album titles.
Another example. Letâs say all albums that match do so in exactly the same way. Since there is no secondary criteria for sorting albums that have the same search score, they will appear in effectively a random order.
The above idea applies to albums and photos. My description of the search elements and scoring above is also simplified for the point of understanding. Photo matching scores also affect the inclusion and ranking of the albums that contain them.
Since you have raised this, I have put in that secondary sorting by album and photo title so that albums and photos that scored equally well in Search will appear in an alphabetical order. This will be released soon in our next maintenance update.
Thank you very much, Ben.
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